Comments on: What Do You Do In This Texas Holdem Scenario With Bigslick?

By: Tank 64

Tank 64 — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:03:56 +0000

I don’t think you can play the hand differently … I may’ve bet a little less than you did (say 90 on the flop, 200 on the turn) but it wouldn’t have mattered, I would’ve been all-in by the end as well.
Looks like a tough spot for a good hand to be out of position.
Unless you could’ve read MP for a set, I don’t know how you lay this one down.
Is that what he had?

By: Vegas Matt

Vegas Matt — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:32:01 +0000

After calling your pot bet on the flop, you’ve got to put him on either a straight flush draw, a hand like Ah9h, or a made hand. Just a straight or flush draw should fold to a pot bet. So the hands he can really have are AhJh, Ah10h, Ah9h, AK, AQ, KQ, J10, QQ, 99, or 88. Any of the hands that beat you should have come over the top on your flop bet, so you have to decide if he’s the type of player who would take a chance that you’re not on a draw and call you down. If he is, you probably need to check off the turn card. If he’s slow playing or drawing he’ll probably check along, and you can put in a $300 bet on the end. If he puts in a pot raise you’re probably beat so you can toss your hand, and if he puts in a smaller bet you’re saving money with a call over leading with a raise.
If you think he’s on a strong draw, you MUST go all in on the turn. You’re pot committed anyway with a $300 bet, so you might as well push in and force him to make a decision. If he already has a straight or trips (by some chance) you’re going to lose all your money anyway, and a bigger bet is more likely to make him lay down a strong drawing hand.

By: jimb105

jimb105 — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:24:02 +0000

First let’s look at the hands he might have in which he would most likely call a large re raise with.
QQ
JJ
TT
AK
AQ
Maybe any pair lower than TT
Most likely he will raise with KK or AA so let’s elminate those hands.
Unlikely he called with J10
I think you should have bet about $150 to elminate all flush draws since they are not getting proper odds.
You have to call the $226 since you are pot commited and he might have you on a broken flush draw.

By: singthun

singthun — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 13:46:15 +0000

I would have pulled out my knife on that flop when the King of Clubs hit the table while I had one in my hand!
assuming that the final configuration is accurate your still packing kings with an ace kicker. he would need both the jack and ten to fill in his straight or paired two cards on the table, or pocket aces. Bet that sucker down. odds are you will win.

By: sabes99

sabes99 — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 12:15:00 +0000

as for the way the hand was played, the only problem i see is that if your going to bet so much of your stack on the turn you might as well go all-in because you can’t fold to basically any river card…and more than that, by making such a big bet you have basically cost yourself a chance to fold the river if you miss your flush, by betting just $200 you are still not folding if he moves in on the turn, and if a bad card comes on the river you can safely c/f, while by betting $300 you have pot-committed yourself to any river card…really, checking the river isn’t a bad play at all, if he had smaller clubs and missed you give him a chance to try to go nuts and bluff you, and you can get to the showdown without risking more money, because neither you or your opponent is folding any reasonable hand with that much money out there on the river
if the turn was the 8d, i would go all-in…this is different not having the nut flush draw, because with the flush draw you were protected against outs that he might have, while without the flush draw you need to protect your hand more…also, with the flush draw you can safely bet $200 and know that you’re not going to fold, while if you bet $200 without the flush draw you don’t know what you’re going to do if set all-in…so i would rather just go all-in myself and put the pressure back on him…i don’t really love this option, but checking is just an open invitation to get semi-bluffed on this draw-heavy board, so we have to lead here